This is now a complete media platform for synchronized content from Internet (MRSS, iTunes) as well as private sources with our integration Cloud support out of the box for Amazon S3.
Here is one of the framework generated experiences (you can do your own but not in this demo) which transforms the Apple Movie Trailers content:
Or click here to go direct:
http://media.tangentux.com/index.htm
Adobe has no reason to ignore Silverlight now…They do that at their own peril and eventual harm.
We will have a free version of this media center environment (yes indeed it is a lot like Windows Media Center, only completely built for Internet content). The demo above shows off some Deep Zoom integration, as well as some intelligent playback optimized for quality over M4v, MP4, and associated file types.
There is also a large demo with tons of smooth streaming content. Let me know if your interested.
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Hi Damon!
Thanks for the link, this is cool stuff. Can you clarify, however, what specifically you mean by “Adobe Video”? H.264/AAC in a F4V file? H.263/MP3 in a FLV file? Are you using any custom built decoders?
No custom decoders. The uri is from YouTube ‘HQ’ so it would be the .mp4 format I believe. Many want the .flv format but that (I believe) is limited as to quality (I could be wrong there as I learning all the details of Adobe’s formats).
Thanks for the comment.
NOTE (I noticed this morning that the links did not work – they appear to have expired). I just replaced them with a new link to my favorite video (on a boat).
If that continues to be an issue I will automate this.
I just added a screen shot from VLC showing the audio and video internal formats for the container.
What Alex said. There are no ¨Ädobe video formats¨. Thereś a set of standard video codecs, and then thereś a SWF interactive shell. Could you speak more clearly, please? Doing so might help impressionable minds, thanks.
jd/adobe
John,
Yeah I know.. To be honest it makes for a far more enticing headline which I do admit with a degree of tech purist embarassement. That was quite explicit to get readers who may not know the H.264/MPEG4 distinctions.
Your point is well taken.
More specifically:
There are no ¨Ädobe video formats¨. Thereś a set of standard video codecs, and then thereś a SWF interactive shell. Could you speak more clearly, please? Doing so might help impressionable minds, thanks.
Fair enough. But please realize I can hardly add MORE confusion to this already tangled mess of standards (grin)…I wish I had that kind of pull.
Damon
John,
And I do see you work for Adobe which explains the slight tone of your irritation. I love Adobe. Microsoft just makes it so compelling to work with them as a partner it would be silly for me not to. I would love to learn more from you about what I might be missing developing in Flex. My comrades at the Digital Media Encoding and Management company are amazing talents and in all seriousness I have nothing but love for Adobe. Just more for Microsoft.
Damon
Hi Damon,
The reason why it’d be a good idea to be clear when talking about “support for Adobe video” in a Silverlight player is because in Silverlight 3 we have indeed added media format extensibility support which allows codec developers to write 3rd party format and codec plugins for Silverlight. So theoretically it’s now possible to port codecs and formats traditionally associated with Adobe Flash to .NET and make FLV content (with H.263 or VP6 video) really play back in Silverlight (though it’s not a trivial task, neither in the engineering or legal sense). So saying that you have “Adobe video” playing back in Silverlight could definitely mislead people into thinking you’ve done all that codec porting work. Just keep that in mind. :)
Ultimately, MP4 format with H.264/AAC (now used by YouTube’s HQ player) is no more Adobe’s than it is Microsoft’s. The file format is standardized by ISO; the codecs are standardized by MPEG and ITU. The good news is that we’re all starting to converge around common codecs and formats, allowing content providers to encode once and deliver to whichever client platform they choose.
Oh, and in the interest of full disclosure, I should also point out that I work for Microsoft on the Silverlight and IIS Media technologies.
Ha ha.. I think anyone who would read this far knows exactly who you are Alex (grin). You did great work at Mix 09 in your presentation of the work I am lead Silverlight dev on (New Jersey based firm – your ‘Advanced’ part from the three examples).
Damon
I fixed the misleading text. You guys were 100% correct here. My bad. In trying to get the message to the largest group I ended up being misleading and frankly just wrong.
My goal was (is) to engage in a dialog with anyone, and it has been harder to do that with the technical leadership that is focused solely on Flex/Flash/Air.
The opportunities are astounding as are the challenges and the demand for raw blinding mastery in the craft of software,
For those of us crazy enough to try to be effective at building great RIA experiences we need all the knowledge sharing we can get. After almost 20 years of commercial software development I cannot remember a time when so much was demanded from the individual. I love it.
There is no room for ‘just ok’ or even average. This is about astounding talented (borderline savant) individuals (much more so than teams) shifting the fundamental nature of what a ‘programmer’ can be.
This is about finally those that deserve it to be seen for what they are: Artists, master craftsman, scientists, domain experts, etc.
In closing, often I encounter a flat dismissal of Silverlight from the Adobe camp and I want them to take notice of the features such as hardware acceleration, 3D, and of course extended video format/codec support. This post is a direct call to action to that group to understand the gap has just about closed between these 2 dominant RIA frameworks.
Perhaps this discussion is doing what I had intended more effectively from this very kind of clarification. I hope so.
Damon
using a JW player proxy like works nicely
sasasa
i just love adobe.
impressive work !
xx
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